Anyone else "on hold" for an offer?

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I've been interviewing for the past couple months for a "possible" opening here in Florida. I've advanced thru every step in the process and have the support of the VP of Sales. The hiring manager says that the job is mine when its approved. I was just wondering how long the average wait is for expansion opportunities like this? Any insight? I'm anxious to get started but dont want to miss out on other opportunities while I'm "on hold". Thx
 






You can now expect the offer to not come through. Anyone who puts what territory they are referring to is an idiot and it will get back to the hiring manager. Actually, since I'm with IS already, think I'll reach out and have a talk with him about this person who is 'on hold'. Consider it done.
 






I've been interviewing for the past couple months for a "possible" opening here in Florida. I've advanced thru every step in the process and have the support of the VP of Sales. The hiring manager says that the job is mine when its approved. I was just wondering how long the average wait is for expansion opportunities like this? Any insight? I'm anxious to get started but dont want to miss out on other opportunities while I'm "on hold". Thx

I would expect that you just shot yourself in the foot. You might want to look at those other opportunities.
 












You can now expect the offer to not come through. Anyone who puts what territory they are referring to is an idiot and it will get back to the hiring manager. Actually, since I'm with IS already, think I'll reach out and have a talk with him about this person who is 'on hold'. Consider it done.

what a bunch of Douchebags you guys are. they guy/gal never said anything negative but yet you still feel the need to talk the manager? I bet you feel all high & mighty...
 












While I agree there are quite a few d-bags here at ISI, what this original poster did was career suicide. Why would you be so specific w/ your area?? Regardless of what company you are posting for, that was just plain stupid.

With that being said, I think this was a blessing in disguise for the OP. Things here have never been worse. The culture is getting worse and worse by the day. Everyone I talk to in areas across the country are absolutely miserable. I won't get into detail, b/c what has been said on previous posts is very accurate. The execs are freaking out b/c we aren't growing like we did in previous years. They need to understand that we are no longer a start-up. Corporate culture needs to shift from "barbarians" to "bureaucrats" (one of ISI's faves). If they don't make this shift soon they will lose everything to Titan...including us. I guarantee even some of the top execs have stock in it.
 






You can now expect the offer to not come through. Anyone who puts what territory they are referring to is an idiot and it will get back to the hiring manager. Actually, since I'm with IS already, think I'll reach out and have a talk with him about this person who is 'on hold'. Consider it done.

The OP is obviously young and ignorant, but the "oooh, I'm telling" is a bit grade school. Why dont you answer the question since you're already with IS and appear to know so much? If the guy/gal does get the offer they'll be ripped to shreds within 6months anyway.
 






The culture is tough here of course, but switching into "bureaucrat" mode is not what this company needs, or any for that matter. Management may need to be more realistic in terms of what they expect in the GYN market, but that doesn't mean there aren't other markets that we stand to grow substantially in. Besides what we know now, if you think a little bit more outside the box, you can see potential in many other specialties with our current robot.

I'm just as tired as everyone else with the rhetoric and asinine meetings and GYN dinner speaking events, etc.... But I believe that this company has a lot more up its sleeve still.
 






The culture is tough here of course, but switching into "bureaucrat" mode is not what this company needs, or any for that matter. Management may need to be more realistic in terms of what they expect in the GYN market, but that doesn't mean there aren't other markets that we stand to grow substantially in. Besides what we know now, if you think a little bit more outside the box, you can see potential in many other specialties with our current robot.

I'm just as tired as everyone else with the rhetoric and asinine meetings and GYN dinner speaking events, etc.... But I believe that this company has a lot more up its sleeve still.

I agree, but they can't continue to go about business the way they have. Hospital execs hate us, and now that most hospitals are now getting 2nd systems or upgrades these execs are on to us. The good cop/bad cop is very transparent, as are the "deals" for buying before the end of a qtr. Intuitive will not be a monopoly for much longer, so they need to start changing their approach so they don't lose everything to Titan (or whomever is next).
 






I agree, but they can't continue to go about business the way they have. Hospital execs hate us, and now that most hospitals are now getting 2nd systems or upgrades these execs are on to us. The good cop/bad cop is very transparent, as are the "deals" for buying before the end of a qtr. Intuitive will not be a monopoly for much longer, so they need to start changing their approach so they don't lose everything to Titan (or whomever is next).

Our tactics have been rather heavy handed and we've certainly leveraged fear to facilitate action with hospital execs. I think before that it was possibly the only way to get folks to listen. But you're right. Everyone knows the robot now and are beginning to see the cracks in our message. I won't go so far as to say we lie, we may exaggerate, but that is being picked apart more than ever now as administrations has wised up.

I think we'd be more successful if we really stuck to the message of partnering with our hospitals to grow their programs effectively. We don't need to rush to sell them the latest and greatest as soon as we can. We need to find a legitimate need first, sell it and work with them on implementing it. The focus on procedure count is a little absurd too. We're training folks who aren't ready, aren't committed, and who provide very little back to us at the expense of those who are all of the above.

The unfortunate part of all this is that we are at Wall St.'s mercy and we have to grow at a rate acceptable or better as determined by Wall St. In that respect, I understand the neverending urgency. It makes all of us feel like shit when people don't like us. What makes me sleep at night is the fact that if they don't like me for trying to do my job, then they are really the obstinent assholes here. This is how capitalism works unfortunately and if they don't understand that, that's their problem. They don't have to buy what we're selling, but as long as we're educating them on our product truthfully, they shouldn't hate us. Maybe it's the whole monopoly thing and that they can't turn right around to the next guy and say "hey this is what ISI offered. What are you gonna do?"... Maybe they just aren't used to that?