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anonymous

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Read the book “ Stop working for incompetent fools and start believing you are better than Sun.

micromanaging ass at the head and everything on down. When did you speak to the office? What was discussed? ...Oh no you can’t say that! Schedule programs... wait we aren’t ready yet. Total shit show ends for me when we bust loose from the jail cell.
 






Read the book “ Stop working for incompetent fools and start believing you are better than Sun.

micromanaging ass at the head and everything on down. When did you speak to the office? What was discussed? ...Oh no you can’t say that! Schedule programs... wait we aren’t ready yet. Total shit show ends for me when we bust loose from the jail cell.

you must be in med derm too. our fearless leader is directing the ship, and positioning himself to move to CEO due to his impressive leadership skills.
 






Read the book “ Stop working for incompetent fools and start believing you are better than Sun.

micromanaging ass at the head and everything on down. When did you speak to the office? What was discussed? ...Oh no you can’t say that! Schedule programs... wait we aren’t ready yet. Total shit show ends for me when we bust loose from the jail cell.
 






Read the book “ Stop working for incompetent fools and start believing you are better than Sun.

micromanaging ass at the head and everything on down. When did you speak to the office? What was discussed? ...Oh no you can’t say that! Schedule programs... wait we aren’t ready yet. Total shit show ends for me when we bust loose from the jail cell.

“shit show” - that’s just simply the best way to describe this place.
 










































We have been out of the field for 1 month and this could continue for another month. Is furlough on the table or at this point are we safe?

I don’t see how they can keep us much longer. A bunch of my offices have also laid off nurses and techs. Several have talked about not letting vendors back in until there is a vaccine.
 






I don’t see how they can keep us much longer. A bunch of my offices have also laid off nurses and techs. Several have talked about not letting vendors back in until there is a vaccine.

They are just telling you that because you are the Sun Pharma rep, and your companies products are completely useless, and irrelevant..
 






I don’t see how they can keep us much longer. A bunch of my offices have also laid off nurses and techs. Several have talked about not letting vendors back in until there is a vaccine.

If major hospital systems or offices take that apporach of not allowing vendors in until a vaccine, then pharma reps are dead until 2021. Im not sure that is possible. Salesforce is still needed to detail via webex and calls. A possible RIF or furlough is certainly possible, and i imagine is being talked about. But waiting until a vaccine will be the end of reps as we know it.
 






If major hospital systems or offices take that apporach of not allowing vendors in until a vaccine, then pharma reps are dead until 2021. Im not sure that is possible. Salesforce is still needed to detail via webex and calls. A possible RIF or furlough is certainly possible, and i imagine is being talked about. But waiting until a vaccine will be the end of reps as we know it.

We are not getting into offices until 2021. Maybe 2022. We have been given courtesy for much longer than we have deserved. Now we are in a pandemic. Non-essential patients/conditions will not be seen and non-essential office distractions (reps) will not gain entry. The offices that allow free free entry for free lunch, are probably not worth the call. Face the facts.
 






We are not getting into offices until 2021. Maybe 2022. We have been given courtesy for much longer than we have deserved. Now we are in a pandemic. Non-essential patients/conditions will not be seen and non-essential office distractions (reps) will not gain entry. The offices that allow free free entry for free lunch, are probably not worth the call. Face the facts.

your probably the same person who thought the world was going to end in 2000. We will be back in offices in 2020. Maybe not until fall but we will be back. but to say 2022? your smoking something. If thats a well known fact you would had been cut a month ago.
 






My bet is that at least 50% of the sales force will be cut, way before derms letting idiot SUN reps back into their offices to infect their patients. Even free lunch and Frappachinos will not get you in.
 






My bet is that at least 50% of the sales force will be cut, way before derms letting idiot SUN reps back into their offices to infect their patients. Even free lunch and Frappachinos will not get you in.

um if you take a look at the careers website, they just posted over 30 jobs THIS WEEK. that doesnt sound like they are looking to layoff but beef up. Alot are FRM positions.
 






um if you take a look at the careers website, they just posted over 30 jobs THIS WEEK. that doesnt sound like they are looking to layoff but beef up. Alot are FRM positions.

So what’s that say about the thinking here ? 18 months post launch, absolutely dismal uptake - a complete failure of a launch, and now we’re adding FRMs ? Abhay and Kyle are clueless- I cannot believe they’ve not been fired.
That’s telling too.
 






If this is about Ilumya I will say this
  1. The FRMs FAILED everyone and ultimately drove out 60% of highly talented sales people. These TMs were tops before and after Sun. There are ZERO indicators that process will be substantially changed going forward.
  2. Management indicates they want better communication between FRM and TM. REALLY? Didn’t we just come off of a “don’t call T-Th” directive? The problem isn’t communication. It is that Sun hired billing people and administrators to play a key customer interfacing role as FRM. Zero skill set in this group they hired. BS artists too. The Assassins that caused the blood shed are going to play a key role in doing it again. They are still very much the FRM think tank and have snowed their new Director in record time.
  3. The TMs all know that this isn’t going to work. This will prove to be the third and final nail in the coffin.
  4. Don’t play nice with these assholes. The FRM crew attacks you, the TMs, daily and every chance they get. They run the company now so it’s time to leave. To anywhere!
Since launch has one FRM even asked a TM to rate them? To tell them what they needed? Do they even care at all? The leaders of the cult know as FRMs are still very much in place. So yes, we all know that this isn’t going to work.

Fortunately and thanks to the misdirection ploys of our head sales BS artists, A.G. Has paid for 9 more months of front seats to the biggest Shit Show on earth. That’s right my fellow turd pullers, we have 9 months to find another job. That is until they realize that all of our calls in Veeva are total bullshit. In that case maybe 6 months. Last ones out should be prepared to turn off the lights as they swim through a river of shit to the exit.

if you are an applicant NEVER EVER quit a job to come to Sun. Never!
 






If this is about Ilumya I will say this
  1. The FRMs FAILED everyone and ultimately drove out 60% of highly talented sales people. These TMs were tops before and after Sun. There are ZERO indicators that process will be substantially changed going forward.
  2. Management indicates they want better communication between FRM and TM. REALLY? Didn’t we just come off of a “don’t call T-Th” directive? The problem isn’t communication. It is that Sun hired billing people and administrators to play a key customer interfacing role as FRM. Zero skill set in this group they hired. BS artists too. The Assassins that caused the blood shed are going to play a key role in doing it again. They are still very much the FRM think tank and have snowed their new Director in record time.
  3. The TMs all know that this isn’t going to work. This will prove to be the third and final nail in the coffin.
  4. Don’t play nice with these assholes. The FRM crew attacks you, the TMs, daily and every chance they get. They run the company now so it’s time to leave. To anywhere!
Since launch has one FRM even asked a TM to rate them? To tell them what they needed? Do they even care at all? The leaders of the cult know as FRMs are still very much in place. So yes, we all know that this isn’t going to work.

Fortunately and thanks to the misdirection ploys of our head sales BS artists, A.G. Has paid for 9 more months of front seats to the biggest Shit Show on earth. That’s right my fellow turd pullers, we have 9 months to find another job. That is until they realize that all of our calls in Veeva are total bullshit. In that case maybe 6 months. Last ones out should be prepared to turn off the lights as they swim through a river of shit to the exit.

if you are an applicant NEVER EVER quit a job to come to Sun. Never!

The bloody hands responsible for this shit show belong to our ‘CEO’

How can he keep his job ? What pictures of Dilip does he have ?