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A Different Kind of Tension

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The stress working for Merck is bizarre...Many folks say this is an easy job, but I find lying and fabricating everyday very stressful to the point of making me physically sick...

It is like some weird social engineering science experiment to see how much crap and info overload people can stand....

not a pleasant of productive way to spend one's days...And it just gets worse and worse.
 






Anonymous said:
The stress working for Merck is bizarre...Many folks say this is an easy job, but I find lying and fabricating everyday very stressful to the point of making me physically sick...

It is like some weird social engineering science experiment to see how much crap and info overload people can stand....

not a pleasant of productive way to spend one's days...And it just gets worse and worse.
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So quit. Trust me, you have the easiest job in all of pharma, and maybe in the world! If it makes you ill, you should quit. Merck will get 500 resumes for your jib, trust me.
 




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So quit. Trust me, you have the easiest job in all of pharma, and maybe in the world! If it makes you ill, you should quit. Merck will get 500 resumes for your jib, trust me.
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thanks, I did. Never had I been in a job where there was so much lying and fabricating going on. Unbelievable. In that kind of environment, there is a constant uneasiness and threat of getting taken down over some lie or fabrication that is a way of life at Merck. It sucks. The loss of that stress more than compensates me for the 15% hit in pay. I would quit again in a heartbeat if I found myself working in a similar environment. Life is too short to assume that kind of misery.
 




Anonymous said:
The stress working for Merck is bizarre...Many folks say this is an easy job, but I find lying and fabricating everyday very stressful to the point of making me physically sick...

It is like some weird social engineering science experiment to see how much crap and info overload people can stand....

not a pleasant of productive way to spend one's days...And it just gets worse and worse.
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Could not agree more! It is a completely different kind of stress. The worst is, you are forced to lie. Then, you live in fear that the very people who force you to lie will fire you for doing exactly that. It is not an easy job. It is a terrible job. I cannot wait to get the heck out of here and the industry as a whole. Pay cut? I'll take it, gladly, along with getting my dignant, self-respect and sense of pride in what I do back.
 








I know what you meant. You put in a good day and you have five solid calls. The daily objective said you should make more. Now what? They should trust a decent rep would try his best during the day and not impose an artificial quota and then evaluate him that way.
 




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Could not agree more! It is a completely different kind of stress. The worst is, you are forced to lie. Then, you live in fear that the very people who force you to lie will fire you for doing exactly that. It is not an easy job. It is a terrible job. I cannot wait to get the heck out of here and the industry as a whole. Pay cut? I'll take it, gladly, along with getting my dignant, self-respect and sense of pride in what I do back.
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OP here...you totally get it...what a sick system that forces you to lie daily, just so they have the option of firing you for lying any time they see fit...Or your manager has his/hers knickers in a bunch...I will take a huge pay cut but even working the fry station at Micky D's is a more honest living than pharma sales...
 




Anonymous said:
I know what you meant. You put in a good day and you have five solid calls. The daily objective said you should make more. Now what? They should trust a decent rep would try his best during the day and not impose an artificial quota and then evaluate him that way.
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Back in the day you could count on your manager to have your back if you were trying your best and were known to put in a full day's work and not be a slacker. It was a given that everybody would do what they had to do in order to keep momma happy and off your manager's back. Now the game has changed to where you can't count on anyone to have your back and everyone you work with becomes a potential threat to your employment. Everyone still lies and fabricates to some extent as a part of the silly pharma rep game to keep the number crunchers happy but now one never knows when a manager might decide to come after you and dig up some meaningless shit that every rep does in order to fire you.
 




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OP here...you totally get it...what a sick system that forces you to lie daily, just so they have the option of firing you for lying any time they see fit...Or your manager has his/hers knickers in a bunch...I will take a huge pay cut but even working the fry station at Micky D's is a more honest living than pharma sales...
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15 years in the industry both pharma and equipment. It is all a joke these days. No one is a true sales person. Just box checkers. That all changed in 2000 they even hired a different type of rep. Believe me I trained most of them. Good people but they were targeting different personality type and getting rid of the independent sales personality. Not better or worse just different. The problem is that with the economy like it was in 1990 companys are going to turn back to that single hard driving sales mentality some of you will make it others won't. You ladies better polish up on your check in skills and update that resume to include hotel clerk. Smile :) so much for getting in your years in high paying pharma no future longterm employment in the industry.
 




bingo. sorry merck. your managers are not "coaches." they're "cops." waiting for a rep. to slip up so they can write 'em up or pip 'em. It's all managers have left to attempt to show "value." every one knows that's all they got. reps complain about about "babysitting" but what else does a manager have to do really? But that's not the real issue. All organizations, buisness,personal,relgious, whatever, are built on trust. managment don't trust reps and vice versa. employees don't trust merck. the worst is health care no longer trusts merck and the spin it puts out to push it's products. let's don't call it lying. just uhh, misleading. call it post vioxx fall out.
 




Anonymous said:
So quit. Trust me, you have the easiest job in all of pharma, and maybe in the world! If it makes you ill, you should quit. Merck will get 500 resumes for your jib, trust me.
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What does that prove asshole, who cares if they get 10,000 resumes, it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the job. Management prick.
 




How I miss the good ole days when my manager was my advocate. I would put in a full day and he would trust that I did. When it was time for my annual evaluation he would look for positive stuff to say and not dwelling on my deficiencies as much as they do these days. Please get rid of the ice cream-touting, dessert-touting, deli tray-touting reps that know nothing of any clinical studies.
 




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How I miss the good ole days when my manager was my advocate. I would put in a full day and he would trust that I did. When it was time for my annual evaluation he would look for positive stuff to say and not dwelling on my deficiencies as much as they do these days. Please get rid of the ice cream-touting, dessert-touting, deli tray-touting reps that know nothing of any clinical studies.
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Amen, Brother! Agree 100%.
 




Anonymous said:
OP here...you totally get it...what a sick system that forces you to lie daily, just so they have the option of firing you for lying any time they see fit...Or your manager has his/hers knickers in a bunch...I will take a huge pay cut but even working the fry station at Micky D's is a more honest living than pharma sales...
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Yep, we are on the same page, my friend. I worked outside of Pharma sales for years before the economy tanked and I had to take this job. So, it was a whole new f-Ed up world. I know life is much better in the real workplace and can't wait to get outta here. Just biding my time until I find the right opportunity. I think a lot of people got straight into Pharma at the beginning of their careers, so they don't know any different. And, management knows this and plays it to their favor. This is yhe best job, so flexible, work life balance, well paid, "free" car, there are a million good reps out there who could replace you, etc, etc. There is definitely life outside of Pharma. A better life. Where you are actually looked at as a valuable part of an organization, praised for the good work you do, trusted, allowed to think for yourself, never ever have to role play, are not just measured by your most recent numbers, and are treated with respect. F this shitty company and shitty industry! We are all better and more talented than this.
 




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Yep, we are on the same page, my friend. I worked outside of Pharma sales for years before the economy tanked and I had to take this job. So, it was a whole new f-Ed up world. I know life is much better in the real workplace and can't wait to get outta here. Just biding my time until I find the right opportunity. I think a lot of people got straight into Pharma at the beginning of their careers, so they don't know any different. And, management knows this and plays it to their favor. This is yhe best job, so flexible, work life balance, well paid, "free" car, there are a million good reps out there who could replace you, etc, etc. There is definitely life outside of Pharma. A better life. Where you are actually looked at as a valuable part of an organization, praised for the good work you do, trusted, allowed to think for yourself, never ever have to role play, are not just measured by your most recent numbers, and are treated with respect. F this shitty company and shitty industry! We are all better and more talented than this.
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Everything you wish for existed at Merck about 15 years ago. The company then took a turn and you are looking at the new Merck. We worked just as hard then but were happy. Manager would point out areas we should work on while praising us at the same time. Managers were former real reps, not box checkers. Managers knew what relationship selling was all about, not this new "what have you done for me today crap".
 




Left Jerck & Co. a year ago. No more migraines, no more hypertension. 20 years wasted on this sh--hole company, only to be pushed out the door. Multiple VP plaques and thousands of stock options---damn near all worthless---are now relegated to history's scrap pile.

Trust me, you won't miss a single thing about Jerck & Co. The whole existence is a lie. Damn near every coworker is without value. If you don't get laid off, quit.

The truth can hurt sometimes.
 




Anonymous said:
So quit. Trust me, you have the easiest job in all of pharma, and maybe in the world! If it makes you ill, you should quit. Merck will get 500 resumes for your jib, trust me.
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Obviously from someone who has never worked outside pharma and the sad part is, it does not have to be this way. Drugs can be sold and reps can be treated with dignity. The abusive culture actually drives DOWN sales, reps are too afraid to do much more than keep their CTL psychopaths off their backs.
 




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bingo. sorry merck. your managers are not "coaches." they're "cops." waiting for a rep. to slip up so they can write 'em up or pip 'em. It's all managers have left to attempt to show "value." every one knows that's all they got. reps complain about about "babysitting" but what else does a manager have to do really? But that's not the real issue. All organizations, buisness,personal,relgious, whatever, are built on trust. managment don't trust reps and vice versa. employees don't trust merck. the worst is health care no longer trusts merck and the spin it puts out to push it's products. let's don't call it lying. just uhh, misleading. call it post vioxx fall out.
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So true, the sickest part of the whole mess is that they send out surveys that ask if this is a great place to work--hell no! But don't ever say it or you will hear from your DCO monthly until you learn never, ever say it on a survey again!
 




Anonymous said:
So true, the sickest part of the whole mess is that they send out surveys that ask if this is a great place to work--hell no! But don't ever say it or you will hear from your DCO monthly until you learn never, ever say it on a survey again!
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Jerck & Co is much like a totalitarian one-party populist "democracy" commy state from nineteen sixty four. Sometimes it's more like eastern Europe, some other times one or the other HR gig makes it feel more like a banana republic, but invariably you have the Fidel speech of how great the ivory tower is. Difference is, there was a time when complacency ruled - now it's more like Apocalypto "axing heads today to appease the street" scenario.
 








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