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<p>[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 5155983"]Hahaha! Wow! What a blast from the past to read this stuff. I'd like to give gold medal to this posting, it is so true about what went on here in this sham of a "company". I'm also one of the doctors that worked in this place years ago. It was more of a revolving door if anything. </p><p><br /></p><p>Somebody asked about why an MD would work here and why they are not working in a hospital. The reason is because if you graduated from a US school you get priority placement in a residency. If you graduated from a school outside the US (i.e. Carribean, India, etc.) you have to fight for the remaining leftover spots. Only 50% get in every year because these spots are limited. So it is not necessarily true that doctors who apply and don't get in are no good, it's just how it works. If you don't get in one year you have to wait a whole year till the next match. This leaves 1000s of people in limbo and unemployed trying to make ends meet in life, pay bills and loans. One thing that never gets attention is unemployed doctors, but there really is such thing. And being that there is a shortage of fully licensed board certified doctors is the saddest fact of all. But that is a different topic. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the ironic thing: NOBODY anywhere will hire people like us. You are always told you are overqualified and under-experienced and they don't want to hire on a temporary basis. The sad thing is that it is untapped potential that could be put to good use. That's where this company came into play. They are the only place that hired these types of people specifically. In that way, this concept was very smart. But that is where the smart part ended. It could have all been done a better way. But it wasn't. </p><p><br /></p><p>This company signs contracts with pharma companies to have these doctors call practicing doctors at their offices. So essentially they used doctors as telemarketters. By the way, in case you didn't know, doctors make lousy telemarketters if you could imagine, lol. So the basic idea is this: You call a targetted doctor's office. Tell whoever picks up the phone "Hi, this is Dr. XXX, can I talk to Dr. XXX?". The smart ones say they will take a message, this is where you say "No that's OK I'll call back". While you/your colleagues harass them 4x/day. Other unfortunate times the call gets put through and you wait on hold and clench your sphincters. Meanwhile the other doctor who is with a patient drops everything and runs to the phone for what he thinks is an emergency call. When he comes on you say "Hi Dr. XXX, this is Dr. XXX with XXX pharma company...." usually by the 2nd-3rd sentence you get BLASTED to the moon by the doctor (sometimes lectured) and hung up on. Then you fill in a checkbox in the computer saying mission complete. Hahaha. Yes, this really how it happened, this is how it worked. </p><p><br /></p><p>So why would the pharma companies pay stupid money for this??? Beats me. HAHAHA. Wow. This is sales and marketting? The end result ended up exactly REVERSE from what they expected. This did not increase scripts being written by doctors, they hated and rejected the companies we claimed to be calling from. How stupid can people be to be fooled to think this might work? This whole place was a building full of people BSing to keep a job and a paycheck. There was no real kind of work going on. One department with project managers fooled the pharma companies to sign contracts with goals that were a lie and obviously unreachable. Then a separate department was expected to do the work and deliver. And everyone was fooling each other. Obviously this was a recipe for failure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course they didn't need to use doctors to do this kind of work, but they HAD to use them because this is the only way they could get the pharma companies on board. They were the only ones offering this kind of "service" to use doctors to talk to doctors. If they could have lied about that too they would have and paid people less. (Not to say they really paid well at all.) Once a doctor seemed burned out and used or not good enough to them they would replace them. There was a reason why the job was always listed as available on their website. They would always have a ready pool of desperate and willing people to fill seats at their whim. They hire only kids who grew up in the US with perfect English, but they don't say that out loud. Managers would do rounds of group interviews every couple months. Pretty much gave them work to do to in order to show their bosses that they were acting busy.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't end this without mentioning the 2 geniuses that ran this department. I won't be so mean to mention their names even though it would be only fair to do so for all the people they have USED and crap they have put people through. The lady who was manager here was the queen of all micromanagers. She would come up out of nowhere randomly and get up in your business 24/7. The whole place was always on the lookout for her. She'd investigate the bathroom and break rooms. She was more of a babysitter than a manager. She tried to act friendly but it is nothing but passive aggression. She was actually quite a merciless dragon and expected only obedient scared robots to work for her. All she ended up with is people that despised her. She always seemed to be anxious and stressed out. Not a good way to get productivity and motivate people. Because of this people always looked for a way to do the minimum out of spite. </p><p><br /></p><p>Then the other person who was a so called "trainer" was the biggest joke of all. She did no kind of training. How she ever landed this job, I'll never know. She was the definition of "unqualified". She would just read xeroxed stuff from the company out loud because that's about all she knew how to do. She had no idea about any of the products at all in any way. She pretty much has never had nothing to do with any kind of science in her life. So nobody was ever prepared for any product and you would pretty much learn everything the hard way. She hardly knows how to work a computer. So that part you're on your own to figure out. People pretty much ended training themselves. That lady's only goal was to find a way to keep her job the whole time she was there. It was the only thing she worried about. Funny thing is that there was nobody keeping her in check. The end result is that people ended up being "trained", but duh, you are working with doctors. So this is really a cakewalk compared to the complexity they are used to, so they figure it out. So basically the doctors would carry her lazy ass to make her look good. And lazy she was, like wow. The only positive thing I can say about her is that she was the slightly more "good cop" than the other "bad cop". Nothing more than the lesser of 2 evils. </p><p><br /></p><p>Who is mentioning bonuses, 401k, etc.? lol. Yea, no. That's the way the rest of the company works, not in this department. Everyone was part-time. ZERO benefits, no bonuses, no awards, no recognition, no promotions. Nothing. They were not there to help us for anything. You did it for a PT temporary job, for a paycheck. Not a career. </p><p><br /></p><p>So is it any mystery at all that this place in NJ has imploded last year? I hear everyone lost their job and the office has shut down. Everyone knew it was inevitable running around like chickens all day. How it lasted 10yrs is the biggest mystery. Any employee looking to work with this company in any other office (Yardley) is making a mistake. Any pharma company wanting to do business with MediMedia is looking to throw money in the trash. Why it has any kind of reputation is beyond me. It should be exposed for the fraud it is. I am so glad to be working in a different more ethical field now. Back then it was hell but at least now I can look back and have a good laugh.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 5155983"]Hahaha! Wow! What a blast from the past to read this stuff. I'd like to give gold medal to this posting, it is so true about what went on here in this sham of a "company". I'm also one of the doctors that worked in this place years ago. It was more of a revolving door if anything. Somebody asked about why an MD would work here and why they are not working in a hospital. The reason is because if you graduated from a US school you get priority placement in a residency. If you graduated from a school outside the US (i.e. Carribean, India, etc.) you have to fight for the remaining leftover spots. Only 50% get in every year because these spots are limited. So it is not necessarily true that doctors who apply and don't get in are no good, it's just how it works. If you don't get in one year you have to wait a whole year till the next match. This leaves 1000s of people in limbo and unemployed trying to make ends meet in life, pay bills and loans. One thing that never gets attention is unemployed doctors, but there really is such thing. And being that there is a shortage of fully licensed board certified doctors is the saddest fact of all. But that is a different topic. Here is the ironic thing: NOBODY anywhere will hire people like us. You are always told you are overqualified and under-experienced and they don't want to hire on a temporary basis. The sad thing is that it is untapped potential that could be put to good use. That's where this company came into play. They are the only place that hired these types of people specifically. In that way, this concept was very smart. But that is where the smart part ended. It could have all been done a better way. But it wasn't. This company signs contracts with pharma companies to have these doctors call practicing doctors at their offices. So essentially they used doctors as telemarketters. By the way, in case you didn't know, doctors make lousy telemarketters if you could imagine, lol. So the basic idea is this: You call a targetted doctor's office. Tell whoever picks up the phone "Hi, this is Dr. XXX, can I talk to Dr. XXX?". The smart ones say they will take a message, this is where you say "No that's OK I'll call back". While you/your colleagues harass them 4x/day. Other unfortunate times the call gets put through and you wait on hold and clench your sphincters. Meanwhile the other doctor who is with a patient drops everything and runs to the phone for what he thinks is an emergency call. When he comes on you say "Hi Dr. XXX, this is Dr. XXX with XXX pharma company...." usually by the 2nd-3rd sentence you get BLASTED to the moon by the doctor (sometimes lectured) and hung up on. Then you fill in a checkbox in the computer saying mission complete. Hahaha. Yes, this really how it happened, this is how it worked. So why would the pharma companies pay stupid money for this??? Beats me. HAHAHA. Wow. This is sales and marketting? The end result ended up exactly REVERSE from what they expected. This did not increase scripts being written by doctors, they hated and rejected the companies we claimed to be calling from. How stupid can people be to be fooled to think this might work? This whole place was a building full of people BSing to keep a job and a paycheck. There was no real kind of work going on. One department with project managers fooled the pharma companies to sign contracts with goals that were a lie and obviously unreachable. Then a separate department was expected to do the work and deliver. And everyone was fooling each other. Obviously this was a recipe for failure. Of course they didn't need to use doctors to do this kind of work, but they HAD to use them because this is the only way they could get the pharma companies on board. They were the only ones offering this kind of "service" to use doctors to talk to doctors. If they could have lied about that too they would have and paid people less. (Not to say they really paid well at all.) Once a doctor seemed burned out and used or not good enough to them they would replace them. There was a reason why the job was always listed as available on their website. They would always have a ready pool of desperate and willing people to fill seats at their whim. They hire only kids who grew up in the US with perfect English, but they don't say that out loud. Managers would do rounds of group interviews every couple months. Pretty much gave them work to do to in order to show their bosses that they were acting busy. I can't end this without mentioning the 2 geniuses that ran this department. I won't be so mean to mention their names even though it would be only fair to do so for all the people they have USED and crap they have put people through. The lady who was manager here was the queen of all micromanagers. She would come up out of nowhere randomly and get up in your business 24/7. The whole place was always on the lookout for her. She'd investigate the bathroom and break rooms. She was more of a babysitter than a manager. She tried to act friendly but it is nothing but passive aggression. She was actually quite a merciless dragon and expected only obedient scared robots to work for her. All she ended up with is people that despised her. She always seemed to be anxious and stressed out. Not a good way to get productivity and motivate people. Because of this people always looked for a way to do the minimum out of spite. Then the other person who was a so called "trainer" was the biggest joke of all. She did no kind of training. How she ever landed this job, I'll never know. She was the definition of "unqualified". She would just read xeroxed stuff from the company out loud because that's about all she knew how to do. She had no idea about any of the products at all in any way. She pretty much has never had nothing to do with any kind of science in her life. So nobody was ever prepared for any product and you would pretty much learn everything the hard way. She hardly knows how to work a computer. So that part you're on your own to figure out. People pretty much ended training themselves. That lady's only goal was to find a way to keep her job the whole time she was there. It was the only thing she worried about. Funny thing is that there was nobody keeping her in check. The end result is that people ended up being "trained", but duh, you are working with doctors. So this is really a cakewalk compared to the complexity they are used to, so they figure it out. So basically the doctors would carry her lazy ass to make her look good. And lazy she was, like wow. The only positive thing I can say about her is that she was the slightly more "good cop" than the other "bad cop". Nothing more than the lesser of 2 evils. Who is mentioning bonuses, 401k, etc.? lol. Yea, no. That's the way the rest of the company works, not in this department. Everyone was part-time. ZERO benefits, no bonuses, no awards, no recognition, no promotions. Nothing. They were not there to help us for anything. You did it for a PT temporary job, for a paycheck. Not a career. So is it any mystery at all that this place in NJ has imploded last year? I hear everyone lost their job and the office has shut down. Everyone knew it was inevitable running around like chickens all day. How it lasted 10yrs is the biggest mystery. Any employee looking to work with this company in any other office (Yardley) is making a mistake. Any pharma company wanting to do business with MediMedia is looking to throw money in the trash. Why it has any kind of reputation is beyond me. It should be exposed for the fraud it is. I am so glad to be working in a different more ethical field now. Back then it was hell but at least now I can look back and have a good laugh.[/QUOTE]
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