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  1. Anonymous

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    Is there any future with this company? How much do their expandible reamer and bone filler list out at?
     

  2. Anonymous

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    i know a few reps who quit because they made nothing. the device is way too large compared to competition. there are only rare cases where the implant is applicable. device goes for around 4 or 5K. competes with Kyphon and all the verterboplasty companies -- stryker, arthrocare etc. i would stay far away. unless you get a big gauruntee.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    It's fun to read comments from people who don't really know what they are talking about. The device is no larger, the instrumentation is. The device works very well in both VCF and fusion cases. While kyphon, msd, dot, etc. battle it out about who's cement is better or who's adjacent level fracture rate is better Spineology really offers something better.....for the patient. Unfortunately the instrumentation is larger, so it utilizes the original vertebroplasty approach described that most surgeons and radiologists have never been trained on. Also, kyphon and other competitors to spineology do a great job of diverting surgeon and interventional radiologist attention away from the facts. Spineology restores height better, leads to significantly fewer adjacent level fractures, will not ooooze into the canal, is not cytotoxic, will not extravasate and run through vessels into the lungs, etc. The pain relief is the same and you heal the fracture with the preferred method in every other orthopedic fracture case........bone, not cement. Smaller instrumentation is on the way 08.

    If your friends didnt make any money, they didnt know how to sell it, go back to pharma.
     
  4. Anonymous

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    This system is STUPID. I saw the OptiMEsh bag dislodge from the inserter. It was a disaster!! All the reps thought that they were going to get bought up, and be rich. I wouldn't take this line if it was a choice between working at Footlocker or Spineology.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    The problem is with these claims is there is no clinical evidence to back it up.

    Hey dipshit...please tell how the pain is better when there is not boney ingrowth in to a mesh bag filled with bone slurry (for weeks).
     
  6. Anonymous

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    the device is a good idea, but as you can see in the FDA warning letter posted above -- cannot even be marketed for vcf. even if it could, the realistic application is minimal, for young people with low thoracic or lumbar trauma fractures. there is no reason to put morsalized bone graft in an osteoporotic patient who can't grow their own bone. the adjacent fracture argument, while plausible, is totally unproven. the system is an absolute cannon and cannot be placed through the pedicle- the preferred and safest route for treating vcf. the IR community (which is the highest growth area for treatment of VCF) has totally rejected this device. spineology has been trying to sell the device to the big players for the past year or so -- nobody bit. that should tell you something.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    I must be the dipshit. Do they teach you to read in baloon-o-plasty school? I said Pain relief is the same. If you spent some time researching your competition rather than drinking that kyp koolaid, you would know that there are several peer reviewed journal publications and many more posters presented at AANS, AAOS, etc. All are very favorable.

    There is absolutely bone growth through the pores of the mesh, many thousands of cases to boot. If you know anything about VCF, you know there have been 2 strong theories on where pain relief comes from..... 1 theory is from stabilizing the fracture (reducing the fracture or cementing it together), the other is from the heat of the cement killing cells and nerves. Guess what......Spineology has illustrated that reducing and healing the fracture relieves pain.

    Another post re: small patient population, only good for young patients, osteoporosis and healing fractures. People with Osteoporosis do heal fractures, it may take longer than someone without OP, but they do heal. Ask any OP specialist.

    Another post re: transpedicular being the safest approach. Wrong. The original, and preferred approach was/is extrapedicular. You are farther from the canal and nerve roots with this approach. Try a little reading "Percutaneous Vertebroplasty" Mathis, Deramond, Belkoff. Educate yourself.

    If your mother had an osteoporotic VCF, she should be treated for OP with Forteo. Treat the disease. It takes only 3 months to show improved bone density. That 3 months of improving bone quality is also the time when she will have a 25% chance of suffering another fracture next to a vertebroplasty or or kyphoplasty. If it were my mother, with the clinical data that is available, I would prefer that she get the same pain relief in the same amount of surgical time for the same cost and reduce her chance of developing an adjacent level fracture to 3.2%. There is also a 0% chance of one of those "non symptomatic" cement escapes that occurs in 10% of all cement cases.

    FDA indications will be cleared up, that does suck. No doubt a result of baloon-o-happy efforts to stop the only company they have not been able to litigate out of business yet.

    As i said, I enjoy reading posts by people who have no idea what they are talking about.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    Spineology has had financial problems for years and came close to closing the doors around 2 years ago. Have promised the moon to several reps about obtaining shares of stock in the company with going public right around the corner and then once again NOTHING!!!!!! RUN!!!! COMPANY IS ALWAYS TEETERING ON COLAPSE!!! Run also, because with no money, they cannot gain contracts, fight with insurance companies for product reimbursement, nor hire talented reps which could help drive market share. RUN!!!!! Products pretty good but the company is a mess!!!!!
     
  9. Anonymous

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    Then you must really enjoy reading your own posts. At every training lab, the trio of physicians you reference above have always advocated the transpedicular approach. Btw, are they Optimesh users? Nope. Parapedicular approaches are utilized if the instrument is too large or the pedicle is not visible. How many physicians doing Kplasty or Vplasty approach use a parapedicular approach on a regular basis? Small minority, just like Spineology sales. The chance of pneumothorax increases with the parapedicular approach. Who cares if you're further from the cord? Any physician who can't cannulate a pedicle with 100% confidence is a clown who shouldn't be doing procedures. Btw How much tissue damage do you do with that massive working channel? The relevant fact here is: Spineology has very little VCF market share. Nearly every IR has rejected the device, as do most surgeons, for these reasons among others:

    1. much more invasive - your sensitivity for your mom is astounding, until you throw that harpoon in her. 2.4mm trocar vs 8mm cannon. Take your pick.
    2. many more steps
    3. no FDA approval
    4. stuffing a bag of bone in a fracture doesn't ensure immediate stability
    5. skilled practitioners know that cement is not the cause of complications, unskilled practitioners are
    6. Comparing Spinoplasty outcomes to VP or KP is anecdotal, as there is no prospective randomized study to date.

    3.2% chance of adjacent fracture? Please share the study backing that claim how this study separates the natural disease process from the altered biomechanics. You must not have been at this gig very long, but then again you work for Spineology so that goes without saying. Has Spineology turned a profit yet? What were sales in 2007? How many direct reps do they have?
     
  10. Anonymous

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    Re: Spineology BVA

    to all you dip shits. Pain is managed in ALL vertebral augmentations by preventing the periosteum from moving, the end! this board is for lame ass pharma reps and Kyphon reps who are just above a pharma rep. We need people like you to get me coffee in the morning. this is my first and last post. too busy and embarrased to return.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    Well, this argument is really moot. Spineology is out heavily promoting this as an interbody device for fusion. They are paying the big players.

    True, this company has nearly gone under before, and the only way they will actually make any money on the stock options is if some company is stupid enough to buy them.

    Watch for the lawsuits with this company, they are coming. Paralysis is no fun for the patient.
     
  12. Anonymous

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    ...and neither is peripheral edema (medtronic infuse), or any other host of complications that can happen when a surgeon uses any of our devices that we all sell. Listen, any of us that sell devices, especially implants, all run the risk of our product not working properly or the surgeon "mis-using" it. It's very, very, very unfortunate for the patients that it happens too, but we are in a risky business.

    P.S. You'll be singing a different tune when Spineology gets the interbody indication, which should come sometime this year. Their system makes traditional MIS look like an open procedure, it is a game changer.
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Why doesn't the first paragraph surprise me? Look who's running the sales force.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Run, run, run from this company! Unless, your relative is a surgeon or you can absolutely gurantee you can bring some existing business over. Talk to your surgeons first, I thought I had solid relationships and would be able to bring some guys over to use Optimesh. At the end of the day, surgeons percieve the device as a bit hokey, and it's off label. At least that was the perception in my territory. This was for interbody only, I didn't even try to sell this for VCF. My territory was big Kyphon and those guys aren't switching.
     
  15. Anonymous

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    I worked for this company, and it is without-a-doubt the most poorly run medical company I have ever seen! The management team is CLUELESS, and has been drinking the kool-aid regarding the Optimesh for ten years now. The only reason they all stay is because they arte so inept that none could get another job in the industry.

    They are once again out of money, and about to go tits-up! Don't even THINK about joining this outfit, unless you are desperate.
     
  16. Anonymous

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    Well, have been reading on these post and have an interview today. I am very skeptical to say the least. I have learned a lot from these posts. Thanks
     
  17. Anonymous

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    It is a great company with a great pay/benefits package and you get to sell a proprietary product and not just another pedicle screw.

    The product is a door opener. You may want to reconsider.
     
  18. Anonymous

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    Obviously a Spineology employee!! Don't be fooled by the flowery rhetoric about this company, or about the Optimesh. This product has been around for 10 years, without success. The company has never been able to gain usage. The only doctors using it are investors, being paid by the company, or surgeon buddies of employees.
     
  19. Anonymous

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    If you are interviewing with them, perhaps you may want to ask them why their #1 distributor, Amendia out of Atlanta, recently quit distributing their product.....