Minnesota Sucks!

Discussion in 'Midwest Reps' started by Anonymous, Jul 23, 2007 at 1:19 AM.

  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Being a pharma rep in mn especially the twin cities is like banging your head against a brick wall every freakin day. $50 dollars per year per doctor per company is just stupid. No evening programs, minimal lunches, home of the HMO's and in the end most of us get ranked against the rest of the country. This job might be better in other states, but this blows. This industry is history if other states follow Minnesota's example.
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    As a fellow rep in Minnesota, I agree! Access totally sucks, especially now that Allina has made changes. They have effectively blocked us from accounts. Funny thing is - when they need something (money) - they sure come calling.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    THings will not change until other states get wind of MN and how pharma is handled - when other states start adopting similar tactics then shit will hit the fan. If you are successful moving any business in MN it is really 10 times the result of other areas with access and less restrictive MCO's. Docs are handcuffed here and they have been relegated to managed care whipping boys and girls.
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I agree. The path of least resistance - a "no brainer"
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Well, yeah ... any state that elects Al Franken as a Senator does SUCK, but back to the question at hand.

    When the bigwigs at the pharmaceutical company R & D departments talk to the folks at these hospitals, medical schools and big clinics that have their hands out and deep into their wallets for "consulting," "research," or whatever the scam of the day is, they should be saying "What access does our sales people have to your facilities, and what are YOU going to do about it BEFORE we approve the next $x check to you."

    Put the R & D money where at least we have a shot at the business.

    But it won't happen. Move on.
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Let's put your premise into real terms. The pharma company says we will give you money for R&D and education and research only if you allow us to make a lot of money off of the money we are giving you. We are not really interested in what you are using the money for or even the patients outcomes just so we can have access to your doctors so we can influence them in our philosophies and make some phat cash!
    And the hospitals and med schools should just say 'OK' thats cool?
    The hospitals and schools are actually in the business of treating and researching for the patients betterment and the betterment of medicine not to line to pockets of pharma companies.
    The only sad thing about limited access is the loss of the samples. The sole reason why most clinics see reps is for samples. Many senior citizens and even regular folk need some free samples to supplement the high cost of the meds pharma companies charge.
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Exactly how many rep territories are there in MN anyways?
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    As a BI rep in MN, we are all concerned about our jobs. Since BI plans corporate a lay-off anyway within the next month, being in MN will mean we will probably mean the axe will drop on us first. To stay in pharma, will need to consider companies outside of MN.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Amen...
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I hope LOTS of people leave MN. I have been doing this for a while, and I have found my access to improve as more and more leave. I am at about 85% of people I can see. Not fake a call or wave down a hallway. Just take programs off the board and I would be happier. I bet there is 60% less people now then a year ago... seems like were are going back to the days of big territories and less reps. Great if your the "less reps"
     
  11. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Glad your access is improving...I do agree that the rep volume is way down, and in some cases I think it is helping some access. I'm still seeing open clinics clamping down, but I think that would have happened regardless of reps.

    Unfortunately, my territory is small and the people I can see write NOTHING compared to the ones I can't see. But if my company ever wises up and doubles the size of my territory, I would be a happier gal.

    Let's hope the luck continues...
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Wait a minute.

    Yes, R&D is a two-way street. But don't tell me that these major teaching hospitals and health systems are sitting by the phone and some drug co. executive calls and says, "Can we give you $250,000 to do a study for our new drug?"

    All those systems have executives who spend at least a part of their day trying to shake money from the Pharma R&D operations.

    I think it's a legitimate question for the Pharma people to say, "Do our sales reps have access to your physicians, etc.?" I'm not saying that they should require use of their products for the grant, but asking whether they can do business in that facility is, in my opinion, a fair question. If Acme Health System and Medical School do not allow drug reps to call on their physicians, I think it's pretty two-faced for them to be soliciting R&D studies from those same companies.
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I agree. I worked for companies and we gave $250K, and the hospital executives are p.o.s.! They are and all the doc's just want bribes and kickbacks. 20/20 should be up there arse. All these people are corrupt and filthy maggets. Also, many old the fat doc's are banging out the dumb pharma reps. We know this is the only way they move the b.s. drugs. Just admit to it--all right. I said admit now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Hi, I'm an old fart doc and I tapped a lot of young pharma tail. Thank you ladies and thank you for the 5 star dinners. My wife is just to old now and not good looking. She is almost 54--wow. Plus she has fake teeth.
     

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