Energy Device?!... Come ON

So what you're telling me is that Cov/Eth/ConM/Erb all developed technology and patented every aspect of it that there is no other way for anyone for the next 20 years to do something similar?

 

What we are telling you is that whatever you are coming out with, won't be a "game changer". It will be a me-too product.

 

Sounds like this chap was claiming Applied has already infringed on something that they haven't even released.

 

It's not infringement until it's a saleable product.

The bigger issue is that the only game-changer here is the only game-changer Applied knows.

PRICE.

Without lower price this is simply Altrus Redux.

The only huge thing would be an intermediate control unit that would make ANY generator a vessel sealer but, even then, how many Ligasure / Harmonic customers would convert?

 

What in industry, would be considered a game changer?

 

your mom

 

Robotic surgical technology is a game changer. I don't work for Intuitive, but they're kicking some ass right now. 2007 revenues were 600 million, 2011 revenues were 1.8 billion.

 

any day now...any day...any day...

 

Patience is a virtue.

 

hahaha, u clowns are going to be waiting for awhile. End of next year at the earliest. With all the reprocessing that is going on of the Harmonic, Applied needs to just close up shop and tell that CEO of yours to sell already.

 

Good news!!! The launch of Applied's energy line is coming soon... 2018 is right around the corner!!

 

Hell just froze over, pigs have taken off and are now flying swiftly across the sky, and i'm the tooth fairy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Energy Device!... Come ON

http://www.appliedmedical.com/Products/Voyant.aspx

 

From the covidien board:


Your right, we would be scared of voyant, if it actually worked. Can any Applied troll name a single account in the entire country where
The product has actually worked?

We havent seen one. Poor sealing on thin tissue, instruments falling apart, seals taking waaaaaay too long. Thats the feedback our surgeons are telling us.

But hey, maybe we are drinking ligasure koolaid. Just please name a single account that has converted.

Didnt think so.

Back to the drawing board...


The sad thing is that you people working for applied dont even realize you are overworked, underpaid, and fighting a losing battle as your leadership whips you harder for unattainable results.

I feel pity for you.

Ive worked with some of your reps and they are truly hard working talented grinders trying to make a living. But unfortunatley, your like the germans in ww II. Fighting a valiant fight in a losing battle.

Too bad Siad doesnt off himself and end your misery.

 

Reno

 

You know, you're right. You have nothing to be scared of. Applied is fighting a losing battle against you.

Let's catch up again this time next year.

 

From the Covidien board

Fair comments. I agree that we might not come out with the best quality but if we can refine the product to be "good enough" for the surgeons we will be able to move the market our way. That was proven.

It will be the same story like Trocar all over again, we promise you that. We have the ability to learn from our mistakes, improve the products, and come out with revisions much faster than you do.

Let's save the time and not argue on CP and get back in 6 months time to resume this healthy debate to see how much additional share we will gain by then.

We are here to stay and we will disrupt the ligasure market tremendously.

BTW, check out with your friends onhow we have made progress at Cleveland, Cedar, MD Anderson, Kaiser, and UPMC for your reference.

 

and Lost Vegas.........

 

Advocates for applied use trocars as an example they will prevail. I think clip appliers are a better example which they have limited market share despite over ten years of effort and many generations. This is due to clips falling out or the device jamming in enough instances the device lost credibility. And this is a comparetively simple device.

The technical complexity of energy products is much higher then anything before and it remains to be seen if Applied has the skills, culture and infrastructure to do it. The fact they have dozens of engineers on it and are missing basic functional areas is a warning sign of poor management.

 

who are you kidding? a clip applier is far more complex than an energy device, which is basically a grasper. how many moving parts need to sync perfectly in there compared to an energy device?