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Discussion in 'Sanofi' started by Anonymous, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:16 PM.
I'm sure they're long gone but let's give them their due!
You don't actually expect a list do you? There may be one or two, but a list?
ray wright in mass, smart, fun, fair. missed by all who worked for him
Jim Blum, Boston
best dm not biggest ahole
Rich Gardner was funny as hell! Good guy with a little bit of an image problem but all said not bad, at least the best I had at this company.
The only good DM I've had in my 15 years in the industry was the one who hired me at BMS when I first started in the industry. The rest of them have really sucked and I'm amazed I've been able to hang on in this industry.
One good DM in 15 years is probably the average. Sad, isn't it?
The phrase "best dm at Sanofi-Aventis" is like saying "the most honest politician" or "the best view at the landfill" ....this should be a short thread.
I've had more than one DM whom most would consider to be in the "best ever" class. Unfortunately, this industry has evolved into a wrecking machine that will transform even those excellent DMs into a horror story. I experienced it, firsthand.
What needs to be realized here is that most (not all) DMs who have followed the company's mandates are really good people. It's a shame some have been forced to become hard-liners. Again, I know there are some genuine cold-hearted bitches but sometimes you gotta blame the company, not the boss.
Au contraire, mon frere...everyone is responsible for their own actions and behavior!!!!! I would never do what managers do to their reps because of pressure from upper management. That's why this dysfunctional cycle continues! Yes, if you stand up to them, you may be managed out, but instead, you make the reps take the fall for shit they have no control over. How you fuckers can sleep at night is beyond me, but then again, I have a conscience! So.... don't tell me that these bastards are good people! Good people don't sell out to keep their jobs and then blame the company for their bad behavior and destruction of reps. Accept accountability and take some fucking action. DM's need to take a stand and there's a hell of alot of you out there that could say enough is enough!!
Organize a meeting with all DM's in your region, or whatever! Don't just fuckin whine that the company makes you do what you're doing! NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT!
You blame the company and the dm who is either a piece of shit to begin with or embraces becoming one. Sorry, I won't let them off the hook.
Very appropriately put.
I worked for KT and all in all, I thought he was a good guy. Not the best DM, but not the worst.
Whether you have an issue with him or not, you look like a complete loser hiding behind your keyboard spewing hate and posting threats.
I agree with the above poster. Stop being a pu$$y and shut the f*ck up coward. Or else be a man and call him on the phone.
Have over 20 years in the company. Have had 2 really great DM's which were the years of my greatest successes, 2 that could motivate although not great, 2 who were clueless but nice people, a couple who were such short timers I cannot classify, and the last one who was the ultimate scum of the earth which seems to be the norm over the last couple years as the last of the really great DM's were forced out at the end of 2008. If you are left at s-a, that is what you have to look forward to. Me, I have moved on to a much better place...
State your name. Let me know where and when you want to meet. Let's see what happens.
I don't see how there could be any job satisfaction in being a dm unless you are into s&m.
those who cannot do teach, oh god, not that these dopes teach anything