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  1. anonymous

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  2. anonymous

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    Joke at your own peril!!
     
  3. anonymous

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    Michelle, you'll have to try harder than that. Didn't Karen talk to you yet?
     
  4. anonymous

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    Michael, we did not see you at the Aug 18 Teabagger meeting in Teaneck. Getting a bit wussy now?
     
  5. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    STILL BORING!
     
  6. anonymous

    anonymous Guest



    weather forecasting
    is not
    climate science



    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/John_Coleman

    John Coleman founded The Weather Channel in 1982. He is currently the weatherman at station KUSI-TV in San Diego, California. He spoke as a global warming skeptic at the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change and the International Conference on Climate Change (2009). Both events were organized by the Heartland Institute think tank. [1]

    John Coleman may describe himself as a scientist or even a meteorologist but he is neither. His degree is in media studies [2]

    Coleman's critics counter that his allegations have little, if any, scientific basis. Coleman "claimed that average global temperatures had risen by 'maybe a tenth of a degree' over the last century; strange then that the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) reported in 2007 that temperatures actually increased by an average of 0.74°C over the same period." [4]

    Coleman claims that he has 30,000 backers in the form of those who signed the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine petition on global warming, but the National Academy of Sciences called that petition "misleading" and "not based on a review of the science of global climate change, nor were its signers experts in the field of climate science." [4]

    Coleman claims the dubious distinction of writing the first error in the book Climatism! by Steve Goreham.[6] On the front cover it notes foreword by John Coleman Meteorologist, although , as noted above John Coleman is not a meteorologist.
     
  7. anonymous

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    Do you environmental whackos actually get sad when yet another summer comes and goes and there are no hurricanes?

    I bet you get real disappointed. Like, your God hath foresaken you and your phony-religion.
     
  8. anonymous

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    Don't you have a de-growther meeting to attend?
     
  9. anonymous

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    SourceWatch’ Exposed: Website Backed by Organic Food Industry Scrambles to Take down Court Documents after Being Caught in the Act
    As briefly reported here late last week, WikiLeaks wannbe “SourceWatch.org” had recently begun posting previously unsealed, proprietary documents provided during discovery by Syngenta, the defendant in a long-running, if meritless, class action in Madison County, Illinois. But now, caught in the act by Judicial Hellholes reporters, SourceWatch operatives are scrambling to pull down those documents, particularly the ones that suggest a direct link between the website and the plaintiffs’ attorneys.

    Not only is SourceWatch feverishly pulling down documents it had posted earlier, it’s erasing online records of those deletions, presumably in hopes of covering its tracks. So much for all that “transparency” that SourceWatch’s sponsor, the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), hypocritically insists is always in short supply when it comes to all those big, bad corporations that just happen to employ tens of millions of Americans.

    SourceWatch’s nascent document-dump webpage, “Atrazine Exposed,” funded in large part by the organic farming industry, is perhaps designed to undermine Syngenta — the manufacturer of atrazine, a safe and widely used weed killer — in the eyes of future jurors, or otherwise to help pressure the chemical company into a costly settlement with the plaintiffs.

    In any case, CMD and SourceWatch routinely rant and rave about corporations’ efforts to influence politics, public policy and the law, but apparently they have no qualms about trying to do so themselves. A victory for the plaintiffs in the atrazine class action, slowly playing out in longstanding judicial hellhole Madison County since 2004, will make conventional farming more costly and thus could make organic farming marginally more competitive. So who’s trying to exercise influence now?
     
  10. anonymous

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    Lotta hot air coming from your direction.
    Are you speaking or farting?
     
  11. anonymous

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    You know what else isn't climate science? Wild, totally unfounded predictions about worldwide climate apocalypse.

    I know, nobody pays any attention to you clueless morons, so you have to scream even louder with even more grim predictions.... just like a child hoping to get some attention.

    You people are pathetic children.
     
  12. anonymous

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    HR is getting involved at this point to tone down the NVS connection to Michael and the Teabaggers. It is about time. What a jerk.
     
  13. anonymous

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    Are you a corporate communications hack?

    “Judicial Hellholes” is a registered trademark of ATRA used by ATRF under license.

    American Tort Reform Association is a coalition of medical professional associations and various industry groups -- such as from the chemical, tobacco and drug industries -- promoting changes to U.S legislation to limit corporate and professional liability for damage caused by their products and services.


    If the lawsuit was meritless, why did Syngenta settle?

    Syngenta AG agreed to pay $105 million to settle a class-action lawsuit in which water utilities in the U.S. Midwest claimed that one of the Swiss company's widely used weedkillers contaminated water supplies.

    The proposed settlement, subject to federal court approval in Illinois, would resolve an eight-year-old suit over atrazine, a herbicide used by many corn growers.

    Nearly 2,000 water utilities are eligible for the settlement, lead plaintiff's attorneyStephen M. Tillery said Friday. In the suit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Illinois, utilities sought to be reimbursed for the cost of filtering atrazine from their systems.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304840904577426172221346482



    Oh, yes. This rabbit hole goes deep.


    To protect profits threatened by a lawsuit over its controversial herbicide atrazine, Syngenta Crop Protection launched an aggressive multi-million dollar campaign that included hiring a detective agency to investigate scientists on a federal advisory panel, looking into the personal life of a judge and commissioning a psychological profile of a leading scientist critical of atrazine.

    The Switzerland-based pesticide manufacturer also routinely paid “third-party allies” to appear to be independent supporters, and kept a list of 130 people and groups it could recruit as experts without disclosing ties to the company.

    Recently unsealed court documents reveal a corporate strategy to discredit critics and to strip plaintiffs from the class-action case. The company specifically targeted one of atrazine’s fiercest and most outspoken critics, Tyrone Hayes of the University of California, Berkeley, whose research suggests that atrazine feminizes male frogs.

    The campaign is spelled out in hundreds of pages of memos, invoices and other documents from Illinois’ Madison County Circuit Court, that were initially sealed as part of a 2004 lawsuit filed by Holiday Shores Sanitary District. The new documents, along with an earlier tranche released in late 2011, open a window on the company’s strategy to defeat a lawsuit that, it maintained, could have effectively ended sales of atrazine in the United States.

    The suit originally sought to force Syngenta to pay for the removal of atrazine from drinking water in Edwardsville, Ill., northeast of St. Louis, but ultimately expanded to include more than 1,000 water systems covering six states.

    ...

    Hayes, a leading atrazine researcher and critic, became a major target. His published research reported that exposure to atrazine chemically castrates male frogs and makes them viable females, able to produce eggs that can be fertilized.

    Hayes began his atrazine research in 1997 with a study funded by Novartis Agribusiness, one of two corporations that would later form Syngenta. Hayes said that when he got results Novartis did not expect or want, the corporation refused to allow him to publish them. He secured other funding, replicated his work and released the results: exposure to atrazine creates hermaphroditic frogs. That started an epic feud between the scientist and the corporation.

    ...

    Syngenta tracked Hayes’ speaking engagements and arranged for trained critics to attend each event, sometimes videotaping his remarks, according to a strategy proposed in 2006 memos by Jayne Thompson and later confirmed by Hayes. Syngenta explored the idea of purchasing “Tyrone Hayes” as a search word on the Internet and directing searches to its own marketing materials, but appeared to have ultimately decided against it.

    Hayes said he had been unaware that Syngenta had discussed purchasing his name as an Internet search word. “Given some of the things they did, that doesn’t surprise me,” he said. “This clearly shows they went beyond science and academia. It was all PR and tricks.”

    Hayes readily admits he has “crossed the line” from dispassionate academic to anti-atrazine warrior. He raps about atrazine and has a website, “atrazinelovers.com,” with information on the dangers of atrazine.

    Asked why he has become increasingly vocal, Hayes said, “I went to Harvard on scholarships. I owe you! I did not go to school to let someone pay me off to say things that are not true.”

    https://100r.org/2013/06/pest-control-syngentas-secret-campaign-to-discredit-atrazines-critics/
     
  14. anonymous

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    If the lawsuit was meritless, why did Syngenta settle?

    - It's simple math, moron and precisely why we need tort reform.
    Innocent people, businesses and organizations settle all the time, because it is the less expensive alternative.
    The slip-and-fall, ambulance chasers are ruining this world.
    Is it any wonder why they contribute so much money to libs.
     
  15. anonymous

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    Take the number of vehicles in the field, (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of failure, (B), then multiply the result by the average out-of- court settlement, (C). A times B times C equals X...If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
     
  16. anonymous

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    Right... because, as we all know, car makers purposely make cars that deliberately fail.
    It's the super-secret plot to thin the population and sell less cars.
     
  17. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    It used to be funny to make fun of Michael, but now it is getting sad.
     
  18. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Contributions to federal candidates and political committees by lawyers have increased during the past 10 years, and collectively, they are consistently larger during presidential election years. Each cycle, the contributions significantly favor Democrats. In the 2008 election cycle, the industry contributed a massive $234 million to federal political candidates and interests , 76 percent of which went to Democratic candidates and committees.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=k01